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Origami Elephants - November 7, 2014
What's Gotten Into Us? The Baylor Panel Audio
Bryne and JR. are joined by Clay Morgan of the StoryMen and Mikey Fissel of Reel World Theology to conduct a panel at the Baylor IFL Conference on Faith and Film. We explore the nature of possession films, and what they say about the Church and contemporary spirituality. A Q&A follows.
From Series: "Origami Elephants Season 1"
Origami Elephants celebrates the tension between beauty and certainty. Hosts Bryne Lewis and JR. Forasteros tackle the elephants in the room - the topics we either avoid or fight about. Bryne, JR. and their guests choose instead to investigate the elephants, to let them draw us together rather than divide.
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The StoryMen discuss what it means to be a fan. We talk Batman, the evolution of Geek culture and whether women get a fair shake in today’s Fandom.
In This Episode
0:00 – Episode 13, ROME, and Veronica Mars
8:00 – Superhero Television
12:00 – Geek Chic
18:00 – The Geekiest Thing Clay’s Done is…?
23:00 – Fandom Back in My Day
27:00 – The Geekiest Thing JR.’s Done is…?
31:00 – Will the Real Fan Please Stand Up?
36:30 – Are FanGIRLS Welcome?
47:00 – It’s a Good Time to be a Geek
Episode Links
JR. wrote a bunch of posts about Batman and The Dark Knight Rises
David Goyer in WIRED
Batman and Robin Documentary
Quiver by Kevin Smith
The Wizard
Documentaries in this Episode
Look for Zombie Clay in this FF5 Music Video!
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Blog: Clay Writes
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Blog: JRForasteros.com
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Sermon Podcast and World Religions Podcast
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Spinnin’ by Alex is licensed under a Attribution (3.0).
4 replies on “What’s a Fan?”
1. God bless you, Clay *sneeze*
2. When I was a kid, super fandom was covering your walls with photos cut out of teen magazines (theme lunchboxes when I was younger than that)
3. Matt! I have so many thoughts about your thoughts about The Walking Dead. For example, Lori was not at all a strong character. I had issues with her because she was weak, wishy-washy, nagging, condescending, self-centered, she fed Shane’s instability, never knew where her kid was (in the zombie apocalypse!) and generally made really bad decisions. As far as Andrea, I didn’t like her decisions, but I couldn’t fault her (team Alise!). I think she got a bad rap and fans didn’t consider what she’d been through since season 1. She just wanted/needed Woodbury to be real and she held on to that until it was too late. Also, I don’t see Rick pairing with anyone at all next season, because NO.
4. I wonder how much of my perception of those characters is based on my gender? I despised Lori partly because of what kind of character she was, but mostly because of what kind of woman she was. That’s interesting.
5. I don’t really care what the female character is wearing, I just really want her to be able to kick ass. But then, I’m a girl.
That’s a great comment, Michelle, and shows the complexity of what we’re trying to sort out here. We can despise Lori because of her character, but the show is full of weak characters in that sense. Rick is not a great dad (he also loses Carl constantly… which means that ****SPOILER PEOPLE *** Carl not only has to put Lori down, he kills that Woodbury kid, too. AND he disappeared after his daughter was born allowing her to be named “Ass Kicker.” Ha ha ha. BAD PARENTS!) but there’s no “Rick is a horrible father” meme that I know of. Lots of people are glad to be done with the Ricktatorship but they aren’t screaming for Rick’s demise.
Frankly, if they killed Rick and put Carl in charge I think we would see some real fireworks. 🙂
Oh, and don’t worry. Rick will “pair” again. And it won’t take long, I promise you that.
You’re really right. Personally, I was extremely mad at Rick because of his Rick-ness by the end of season 2. But I didn’t see that same reaction from fans as a whole – I think the mainest most character is generally untouchable in these situations. He was set up from the beginning as The Hero, and fans really buy into that.
Part of the Lori thing it is that people love to have someone to hate, and the way she was written and portrayed made that pretty easy to do. And she was a prominent character with lots of screen time. Yes, the show is full of weak characters, but they weren’t all shoved as hard into our faces.
But overall, I have to agree with your main point that women do seem to be more often vilified by fans than men. Whether the fans are male or female. And now I will shut up 🙂 Except that I hope they don’t rush a new Rick pairing, because that would be such lame and lazy and mundane storytelling. And also, I’m excited to see where Carl goes next season. I hope they don’t wimp out on the possibilities there!