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The Way Up is Down with Marlena Graves

Marlena Graves joins us to explore the dangers of religious triumphalism. How does Jesus’ way lead down… and how is down really the way up?

Marlena Graves joins us to explore the dangers of religious triumphalism. How does Jesus’ way lead down… and how is down really the way up?

Fascinating Podcast - May 10, 2021

Graci Kim and the Last Fallen Star

Graci Kim and the Last Fallen Star

Author Graci Kim joins us to explore contemporary Korean mythology in a Los Angeles setting. Her new middle-grade fantasy The Last Fallen star carves out a place for kids in the Korean diaspora to find themselves in a whirlwind adventure to save the world. Get the tissues ready. There may be some tears at the end of this one!

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In this Episode:

5 – Story of the Week

8 – Marlena Graves

13 – The Way Up is Down

21 – Deconstruction

48 – What’s Fascinating Us This Week?

60 – Where on the internet

Episode Links

Connect with Marlena Graves

Book | Twitter | Website

7 gifts of aslan: sacraments in Dawn Treader

DEVS’ Temple Theology 

What’s Fascinating Us:

Matt: Goonies Reunion

Kathy: Minor Feelings, Cathy Park Hong and MASKS

JR.: Dread Nation by Justina Ireland

Marlena: Short story – the dignity of people

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KathyMatt | Clay | JR.

Here’re our books:

Raise Your Voice (Kathy) | Matt’s Books | Undead (Clay) | Empathy for the Devil (JR.)

Here’s the stuff we’ve made:

Kathy’s BlogMatt’s Books | Clay’s Books | JR.’s Site | JR.’s Email List

Audio Producer: Aaron Kretzmann

Phos Studios
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By JR. Forasteros

JR. lives in Dallas, TX with his wife Amanda. In addition to exploring the wonders that are the Lone Star state, JR. is the teaching pastor at Catalyst Community Church, a writer and blogger. His book, Empathy for the Devil, is available from InterVarsity Press. He's haunted by the Batman, who is in turn haunted by the myth of redemptive violence.