Origami Elephants - July 4, 2014
Religious Freedom isn't a Hobby
Bryne and JR. discuss HBO's THE LEFTOVERS, and then dive into a conversation on Religious Liberty, using anti-vaccine parenting and the Supreme Court's decision on Hobby Lobby.
From Series: "Origami Elephants Season 1"
Origami Elephants celebrates the tension between beauty and certainty. Hosts Bryne Lewis and JR. Forasteros tackle the elephants in the room - the topics we either avoid or fight about. Bryne, JR. and their guests choose instead to investigate the elephants, to let them draw us together rather than divide.
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Bryne and JR. celebrate their new-found excitement for HBO’s THE LEFTOVERS, and then dive into a conversation on Religious Liberty. From anti-vaccine parenting to the Supreme Court’s decision on Hobby Lobby, they evaluate the various aspects of these issues, from the public good to rights to privacy to what counts as a person.
In this Episode:
0:00 – A Great Month for Podcast News
03:00 – HBO’s The Leftovers
16:00 – The Elephant of the Week: Religious Liberty & Public Health
17:00 – The Amish, Vaccination and Faking Religious Exemption
24:00 – I Know, I Think, I Believe
44:00 – Hobby Lobby and the Supreme Court
60:00 – Let us hear from you!
Episode Links
Vaccination
Measles Outbreak in Amish Country
Supreme Court and Hobby Lobby
The Atlantic: “The Supreme Court isn’t Waging War on Women in Hobby Lobby“
8 Best Lines from Ginsburg’s Dissent on Hobby Lobby
9 Myths from Justice Ginsburg’s Dissent
John Oliver on Hobby Lobby (from Last Week Tonight)
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One reply on “Religious Liberty isn’t a Hobby”
“The company objected to paying for emergency contraception including Plan B, Ella—both commonly known as the morning after pill—plus two types of IUDs. Hobby Lobby said they believe these types of birth control amount to abortion. The company did not object to covering other types of contraception, including birth control pills.” (http://time.com/2941323/supreme-court-contraception-ruling-hobby-lobby/). The morning after pills can work in 1 of 3 ways. One of those ways is that it irritates the lining of the uterus so as to inhibit implantation. For those that believe life starts with conception, this is most certainly a way to “abort” a pregnancy… even if it only existed for 24 hrs. With an IUD, ideally the environment is too hostile for an egg to be fertilized, but in the event it doesn’t work right (and I had that happen to a friend, very tragic for her)… a pregnancy results, but there is no way to save it (she lost her baby and it was sheer devastation). So, these types of BC methods CAN cause an abortion. If the owners of Hobby Lobby are convicted in that manor (as am I), why should they be forced to pay for the methods, even if their employee isn’t convicted? Also, Brynn… you are right… your employer can’t make you buy meat nor can he make you stop buying veggies. You get a paycheck that you can spend how you see fit. The Hobby Lobby owners aren’t stopping their employees from buying BC (any method of their choosing) they are simply not going to provide it. But those employees do get a paycheck (and from what I hear, Hobby Lobby pays above min wage) and they can purchase what method they choose with their doctor’s help. I am one of those people that can’t take hormones. My only option was the Copper IUD. My doc gave me info, told me to look it up, and learn all about it before making my choice. I did just that… it wasn’t long before I realized that my only method was the not fun one… something my husband could purchase (lol). But my convictions and beliefs were too strong. I support Hobby Lobby’s decision. They shouldn’t be forced to go against their Christian convictions because the government says they have to.